Topic: Pictures of my Gaslands Games :-D
July 25, 2016 at 11:04 pm #1736
More hull points could work, but the last thing I’d want to see is cars and buggys with 20 hits a piece. I think you’d have more luck by lowering the damage dice values of weapons, say with flame throwers and rockets down to 5d6 or 6d6 at most. Similar to how the chain gun and HMG changed down in output.
Yep still using the AV value for shooting attacks. Probably skipped over the new rules regarding shooting and how attacks are made. AV works simply enough as it’s just one value, to hit and to wound all combined. I’d argue there’s no need for an armour save, dodge roll or anything like that, as in the bigger points games it would certainly slow it down with that extra step.
The armour plates upgrade add +2 hull points right? Why not have some sort of “armoured” modifier for vehicles. Doesn’t have to be intense. Re-roll a successful hit maybe?July 26, 2016 at 9:22 am #1737
I had wondered about allowing shooting in every phase, but limiting some weapons to n shots per turn? So crew can still blat away with pistols all day long but the big beefy weapons like a flamethrower don’t get to be used as often. Slow moving vehicles with templates actually stand a chance of being in range more often than gear 5/6 buggies shooting straight to the front.
Cool write up though.July 26, 2016 at 9:35 am #1738
Yep, this is the idea behind the “AMMO” rule. You can only shoot the flamethrower three times in the game, but pistols all game long.July 26, 2016 at 9:37 am #1739
Ah but there’s nothing to say I couldn’t disgorge all 3 of the ammo for, say grenades, all at once.
unless that’s covered in the attacking rules. hang onJuly 26, 2016 at 9:37 am #1740
Sorry yes I should have clarified, you have limited ammo but nothing stops you using all of that ammo in 3 consecutive gear phases when you are right next to what you want to shoot?July 26, 2016 at 9:39 am #1741
rules as written;
“You may attack with all of your weapons every time
You may make as many ATTACKS in each phase as
you have CREWMEMBERS.”
“Each weapon can only be fired once in each phase,
and requires a single CREWMEMBER to fire.
Remaining crewmembers may fire their HANDGUNS.”
So 3 crewmen cannot fire all 3 grenades in the same gear phase. What they can do, is fire 1 grenade in following gear phases.
i.e, GP1 – 1 grenade attack
GP2 – 1 grenade attack
GP3 – 1 grenade attackJuly 26, 2016 at 9:43 am #1742
Stuart – yes, that’s right at the moment. If you can “stay on them” well enough to draw line of sight three phases in a row, you can shoot them three times in a row, right now.
James – correct. Of course, you could buy the grenades upgrade three times, (maybe for a pickup truck), and now you can hurl three grenades in a single phase…July 26, 2016 at 9:45 am #1743
Makes perfect sense for the straightforward weapons like machine guns. As you say multiple grenades or turret mounted weapons are a lot more lethal than I thought, especially on something like a war rig. Ouch.July 26, 2016 at 9:45 am #1744
Like you say:
> Slow moving vehicles with templates actually stand a chance of being in range more often than gear 5/6 buggies shooting straight to the front.
I think this actually goes a long way to balance things out, in real-world play, and remove the annoying book-keeping of who has fired this turn or not.
Faster vehicles don’t really get to shoot more often in practice, because they are blazing off into the distance…July 26, 2016 at 9:45 am #1745
Yeah…. turrets remain pretty gross!July 26, 2016 at 9:47 am #1747
So where me and Aidan went wrong, was mixing up grenades with something like a static upgrade. Why wouldn’t a group of guys chuck them all at once as a violent gamble? 😉
Considering that, I will have to get another game in.
other things I’ve since seen / thought of while looking through the rules;
> Regarding AV and now all shooting is a 4+, why not have it tied to Weight class? in the same way buggies and bikes used to be, what? 3+ to damage and hit? look at something like;
Lightweight – 3+
Middle – 4+
Heavy – 5+
hell all the vehicles are already covered, so that work’s done.
> rear shielding. “attacks in the rear suffer -2 to hit” so considering the above, does that mean I’d need a successful 6+ to damage the rear of a vehicle? or is the -2d6 from an attack?
> rockets, flamers, both have ammo 3 and 8d6 damage. So potentially in a turn, could dish out 24d6 damage using up all their ammo in 3 gear phases. No other weapon comes close to that in output. I know they are locked by cost and special rules, but that’s still a ton of dice to be throwing around.July 26, 2016 at 9:51 am #1748
“James – correct. Of course, you could buy the grenades upgrade three times, (maybe for a pickup truck), and now you can hurl three grenades in a single phase…”
Oh mike what have you done…
>Bus for 15, max out crew for further 7.
>8 boxes of grenades for 8.
>16d6 attacks each turn, 360 degrees in short, lasting 3 phases before out of ammo.
but it’s a Massive sink at 30 points. The War-Rig I ran yesterday weighed in at 27 😉
Love the idea of having some kind of…molotov party rolling around the wasteland. Like they put a brewery distillery on the back of a flat bed and just got piss drunk, and started throwing these things out like flaming confetti! 😀July 26, 2016 at 9:57 am #1749
Oh yeah Aidan wanted me to mention.
When a car is destroyed, and rolls that magical “fuel tank explodes” result. Can there be a rule regarding the vehicle getting additional dice to that roll due to carrying weapons and upgrades like;
Boxes of grenades
because hey, that’s a lot of explosives that just lay inert considering what’s happened to the vehicle 😉July 27, 2016 at 10:51 pm #1753
Ha! I love that idea.August 27, 2016 at 10:05 am #1901
So we had a game on my birthday 😉 two new players, myself and aidan, for a 4-way free-for-all. 1 car each, so it was quite a quick game. I’ll admit, I cocked up on explaining the rules (missed the evade rule, which is kinda important…) But overall, good fun 🙂
I was manning Brum (naturally) while new comers Mitch and Michelle used the White Limozeen and Spooky Skull respectively. Aidan was on the work-in-progress barbed wire hunter, so once that’s finished up I’ll have to post some pics in the garage 😉
Had a few calls of “Am I dead yet?” as without the evade checks…yeah rockets and miniguns do a good heaped handful of damage. That said, with those evade rolls I reckon it would have lasted a few more turns. Brum especially was annoyed he only got to ram 1 vehicle into oblivion… 😉
Oh and Mitch found a little funny thing you can do with vehicles with the rivets drilled out. maybe some kind of reverse car / submersible is on the horizon? 😉September 30, 2017 at 10:07 am #2458
James! So sad that all your photobucket images aren’t available any more, these were so great.
Any chance of getting them back?
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